Separating tight ferules

[Capt Bob]

After evey use, I rub candle wax on the male end of the ferules. I then put the rod back together, take it apart and store in in it's sock and case.
Occasionly ferules do get stuck and the best way I have found to pull them apart is to use non adhesive cabinet liners. This is the stuff used to line cabinets to keep dishes from sliding. Cut two 4-5 inch x 1 inch strips. Place a strip around each section of the rod above and below the ferule. Use the liner to twist and the ferules should safely separate. Keepm the rod straight. Do no try and bend the rod. The stuff provides a non slip grip on the rod. The pieces can be kept in a tackle bag and used over and over.

[2Weight]

CB, You have a good Idea there. I have a little twist to it. I was told years ago by a Rod Builder and again by SAGE that candle wax is not the best to use wax to use. I switched but that does not mean I am right. I purchased a Wax from National Feather Craft that they claim is the best. (Don't we all.) I have been using it since it came out on the market and still have 90% of it left. I cake will last a lifetime believe me. One thing I like about It and that is it does not build up very much if at all. Just my 2 cents. Either way it is a great idea to do it. 2WT

[Capt Bob]

2WT Feather Craft is where I purchased the stuff I use. I did't think it was anything special but candle wax.

[2Weight]

CB, Bob told me years ago that it was a blend and had Bees Wax in it. He could have told me it came from the moon and I wouldn't know the difference. I know I have been using one cake of it for many years and have never had a problem with a Ferule. Another ounce of prevention. 2WT

[SloNDeep]

I use canning wax that is/was used for sealing jellies and stuff (parrafin).

I would not reccomend twisting when trying to pull apart the sections of your rod, you can damage the ferrule, and with bamboo rods you can damage the laminated pieces.

[spike]

I also use the Feather-Craft wax and it will last a life time, unless you leave it on the dash of your car, which I did. Now the dash of of my car will last a life time.
I was told by the person who made several rods for me that you put the ends together and then gently push and twist them into place - never jamming them down. To remove, you do just the opposite. I never had a problem.
I would not use candle wax. I just read some article that it builds up and collects dirt and grime.

[TonyM]

I spend some time on the Rodbuilders Forum reading posts. Many of the pro's say that wax (or any sticky stuff) on a ferrule will inevitably lead to capture of dirt particles that will scratch the ferrule internal sections leading to other problems eventually. They all recommend Trondak's ferrule lube.

If you want to listen in (or ask questions of the experts):
http://www.rodbuilding.org/list.php?2

The forum has an excellent search engine.

Tony M

[FK]

I have used white (no perfume) candle wax for over 30 years, no damage on the ferrules has ever been evident. This is for graphite or glass not the old metal types.

I am a long time member of the Custom Rod Builders Guild and many members give out very pointed recommendations based upon someone elses opinion, very soon it becomes a rule. Perfect example is the rod Spine and how to allign it with the guides,,,,my position for many years has been it does not matter for rod performance,,,,,none of the factory rods made today bother with spine allignment and they cast very accurately.

http://www.rodguild.com/


The very early Scott rods from the 1970's had a brochure included with the rods,,,,Harry Wilson the owner of Scott, recommended candle wax.

Just prior to assembly, I will run my fingers over the ferrule section to remove any grit and ensure the wax is present. Push the sections together and seat with a 90 degree twist. Disassemble with a 90 degree twist and pull apart. I have also used the Ed Story, Feather Craft wax and it works fine. I have never experienced a jammed ferrule or loose ferrul with this technique.

If you want to see some damaged ferrules, check out the new rods at your local dealers,,,,,most demo rods are all marked up and without any wax. Look at the direction of the sctraches, most FF will just push the section straight on, this will eventually become a loose or jammed ferrule.

Regards,
FK

[Klinkhamer]

I use St Croix's ferrule wax (blend of parrafin, etc). Comes in a little snap-shut case so if it melts on your dash it'll hopefully stay inside it. :)
I read on rodbuilders.org, that if you use this Trondak ferrule lube on some blanks that are colored (e.g.: St Croix's Legend series), it can remove the finish. So be careful.
I also put one of those circular rubber jar top grippers in my bag for getting a grip on my rods if they stick together.
If I use the wax on my ferrules, I just wipe most of it off to afterwards to keep dirt from accumualting. Not like I caked it on there in the first place.

[Ray]

I use white parafin wax on graphite and white bar soap on bamboo (nickel silver).

[nightstriker424]

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[tfucini]

i learned from somebody to rub the tip between your nose and your face becuase there is grease or oil there or something?

[pvansch1]

The problem with "nose grease" or any oily substance is it attracks dirt and grit which is no good for any type of ferrule, whether it is nickel silver on a bamboo rod or a graphite ferrule. Grit instills tiny scratches which in time turn to big scratches and that's not a good thing.
Pete

[tfucini]

ah... what ever happend to one peice rods? lol

[pvansch1]

I know some bamboo makers who build fantastic 1 piece rods!!
Pete